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| TEAM_PING_AMORONE |
 Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:58 am |
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5 Pts Tim and I had this discussion....what is the process (last step?) that leaves the glossy, glassy coat EVENLY on decks after being sanded, screended, etc?
Curious minds...and I am sure some deck makers....want to know. 
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| Gusto |
| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:09 am |
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TEAM_PING_AMORONE wrote: 5 Pts Tim and I had this discussion....what is the process (last step?) that leaves the glossy, glassy coat EVENLY on dicks after being sodomized, screwed, etc?
Curious minds...and I am sure some dick riders....want to know.
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| skinny |
| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:44 am |
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K,
Here is a couple..
In auto paint shops they use a clear coat called tmd and it stands for something in the coating.
There is a similar coating for wood, it can be thinned and baked too I belive.
I have heard of a miracle one coat sealant for skateboards...I don't know however if it is do-able over graphics.
There is the old stand by of real laquer/shalac paints. I think the general rule is 2-3 even and progessivley thinner coats.
Polyurethane in all traditional applications can be really sticky when riding skateboards covered in it........I use another option an oil modified polyurethane thats thinnable and I take great care in smooth sanding with progressively higher sandpaper grit, and then a final steelwool pass. I wait a long time between coats. I get some pretty shinny stuff.
I would be interested in an answer from Knockman1 or pennswood on this one myself.......guys? |
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| pennswood |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:06 am |
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here it is the miracle coating.
sherwin williams, kem aqua.
WATERBASED laquer.
this is clear coat, we also use the same formulation
in pigmented colors.
available in 5 gallon buckets.
applied with an automotive spray gun,
or wagner power painter,
or brush,
or dip them in the bucket, etc........
no reason left to use any inks or coatings that are not waterbased.
we have used it for 2.5 years.
as a base coat on raw wood it will raise the grain slightly.
so take a scothchbrite pad, or some fine emery cloth,
quick sanding by hand, 2nd coat, 3 hour dry time,
perfect seal, hard coating, over graphics for the high gloss goodness.
all of you should throw away any inks or chemicals
that are not water based,
naz dar 2700 series inks, get some retarder..... |
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| skinny |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:01 pm |
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pennswood wrote: here it is the miracle coating.
sherwin williams, kem aqua.
WATERBASED laquer.
this is clear coat, we also use the same formulation
in pigmented colors.
available in 5 gallon buckets.
applied with an automotive spray gun,
or wagner power painter,
or brush,
or dip them in the bucket, etc........
no reason left to use any inks or coatings that are not waterbased.
we have used it for 2.5 years.
as a base coat on raw wood it will raise the grain slightly.
so take a scothchbrite pad, or some fine emery cloth,
quick sanding by hand, 2nd coat, 3 hour dry time,
perfect seal, hard coating, over graphics for the high gloss goodness.
all of you should throw away any inks or chemicals
that are not water based,
naz dar 2700 series inks, get some retarder.....
I agree! thanks dude thats handy info.
Any special info on where you might purchase it?-Milt |
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| TenetSW |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:27 pm |
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penn's wood rules....
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| TRUpah |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:58 pm |
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dam penns you guys are the shit
ive been trying to find that shit for a while now...
no one knew what it was or the name of it
went to 2 sherman williams stores trying to find it...thats all i need and my shop is completely solvent free!...
how do we get??? |
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| notaint |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:09 pm |
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| SkaterBonds |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:15 pm |
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Any Sherwin Williams automotive paint or house paint suppliers can order it by the gallon for right around $90 per gallon. It's very user friendly and if you know what you're doing, you can get away with 1-2 medium coats.
I've used the stuff on decks and hot tub bases. The paint used in the automotive industry is a Urethane based solivent/ isocyanate solids type coating. The solivents evaporate from the urethane and the solids are what is left standing on the primer/ sealer and basecoat (color coat). The higher level of solids in any paint, the more resistant to scratches, UV damage and just damage in general it is. It also ups the price of the paint quite a bit.
I wouldn't spend the money on a Urethane coating for a skateboard. That stuff is for cars and really shiney stuff (cars, guitars, bikes, etc.) and usually costs about $150+ per gallon with the catalyst.
There are exactly 128 oz. in a gallon and you typically use about 2-3 oz of paint on a deck. The most efficient way to paint a deck is to hang it and set your HVLP gun up right. If you know what you are doing, you shouldn't have runs, sags or buildup using Kem-Aqua or a laquer based coating. You could actually paint a deck using an automotive urethane clear coat, but you would have to do a light tack coat first to keep the paint from moving too much in the second coat after it's sprayed.
Acrylic enamels are the same way.
If you get gung ho like G.I. Joe and want to paint some stuff, make sure you buy your respirator from the same place you buy your paint from and you know how to assemble it and fit it correctly.
Wear gloves and be smart.
FYI- If your skin is exposed to laquer solivents, it can be detected in your urinal tract in a matter of 20 minutes after exposure. And if you think inhaling laquer based paint is bad, the Isocyanates in both Kem-Aqua and Urethane coatings can give you cancer after using the stuff ONCE without a respirator in an enclosed, unventilated area. Set up a booth with a decent blower and some good filters. If you don't want to do that, Call some paint shops and see who rents booths in your area.
Be safe and have fun!
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| Rob_B |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:17 pm |
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